Escape from a Prescription Drug Maze

August, 22, 2021 | 18 Comments

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  1. When will it ever end.

    Aug 9, 2021, 8:49 PM
    to curricula consultation (re David Healy blogs )
    FAO John Russell Associate Dean
    Regarding the above can you tell me if there re any plans to include the issues highlighted in discussions about the curricula ?
    Thank you (encl blogs)
    Susanne

    Dear ‘Molly’
    FAO John Russell Associate Dean
    Thank you for your reply of Aug.13 2021
    Can you kindly forward the above written by Professor David Healy as additional feedback to the Curricula consultation .Susanne

    Also
    Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 7:25 P

    to Adrian James
    https://rxisk.org/whats-a-life-worth-is-anyone-listening/#comments
    FAO The President (re copy of Tracey’s account)
    There are many accounts being published by those who have been damaged by their experience of psychiatry and prescribed drugs. They are so often undermined -but when so many reliable accounts are circulating – can you advise how people who are debating or already accessing services – can trust they will not experience the same damage which as you know has serious very consequences .
    Thank you I would appreciate a response which I could circulate to clarify how the college aims to tackle the issue highlighted which is of serious concern.
    Susanne

    Adrian James
    Fri, Aug 13, 4:46 PM (10 days ago)
    Dear Susanne
    I hope you are well.
    Thank you for writing to me.
    Whilst the College is not responsible for developing clinical guidelines or regulating psychiatrists, which are the responsibilities of the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) and General Medical Council (GMC) respectively, we do aim to promote the high standards of care. You specifically mentioned prescribed drugs in your enquiry, which is an area the College has shown leadership. For example, in 2019, we published a position statement stressing the importance of only prescribing antidepressants when clinically indicated, and supporting a much greater focus on safely managing withdrawal. On the latter, we subsequently published a patient information resource on ‘Stopping antidepressants’ to provide general advice on the symptoms that can occur as a result, and ways to reduce and avoid these. These documents have been widely publicised by the College, and we continue to engage with stakeholders about all of these areas to ensure patients have access to all evidence-based treatment options.
    All the best,
    Adrian

    Dear Adrian
    Likewise I hope you are well.
    Thank you for responding . I will circulate your letter as the message is not getting to everyone yet – neither prescribers or those who consult doctors and other health workers.
    I hope this will speed things up Susanne

    Sun, Aug 15, 9:17 PM (8 days ago)
    Dear Adrian
    Thank you for your letter and the documents enclosed. But we need to get to the heart of the matter. The practice as well as the reputation of psychiatry is being damaged as more negative publicity circulates . And to be honest I believe the skills of psychiatrists to relate and help another are being lost by the expectation that it is imperative to follow guidelines without access to the data which informs them. These are flawed by the data not being made available even when drawing up these guidelines.

    The College is aware that people are still being harmed and dying from prescribed drugs , much could be avoided in prescribers had better knowlege and guidance, not just guidelines ,to draw on. They are being told to rely on NICE; MHRA neither of whom have access to actual pharmaceutical data themselves . What is published including in journals which people access for information is ghost written, something most would find an unreliable source if it became widely known.
    Most people have no real choice but to rely on the information conveyed by doctors. People do reasonably assume that the College is responsible for having actual information from pharmaceutical companies before advising on drug prescribing.
    This is the nub of the problem. Nobody is taking responsibility to tackle the problem, whether NICE; MHRA; GMC or when a suicide is considered an effect of prescribed drugs, Coroners seem unable to document this on a death certificate.
    Finally, it is a frightening situation whereby those who practice and regulate are leaving known loopholes which can lead to lifelong harms and deaths.

    Is the college doing anything to gain the right to access data from pharmaceutical companies and prevent the use of ghost writers which are of course informing how people will be influenced and use prescribed drugs ? Without this Drs cannot treat with confidence of ‘doing no harm’ and those who consult them cannot give informed consent .
    With best wishes
    Susanne
    I have sent this reply pointing out that none of this or the information contained in his letter or documents contained addresses the issues detailed by Davd H, and also written to to the Dean separately -who is heading updates to the Curricula, which will be fed into the GMC.

    From: Susanne
    Sent: 18 August 2021 11:33
    To: Curricula
    Subject: Re: dav – Morgan vs Morgan: The Future of the NHS? | Dr. David HealyRE: dav – Morgan vs Morgan: The Future of the NHS? | Dr. David Healy
    david healy
    Curricula
    Wed, Aug 18, 4:00 PM (5 days ago)
    to me
    Hi Susanne,
    Feedback from the consultation will be fed into our final submission to the GMC on the 3rd September.
    We will be in contact after that date to explain how we incorporated it into the curricula.
    Best,
    Molly

  2. Interview: Researchers Deconstruct Ghostwritten Industry Trial for Antidepressant

    By Justin Karter
     
    May 14, 2016

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/05/researchers-deconstruct-ghostwritten-industry-trial-for-antidepressant/

    The same thing has been going on with the SSRIs and, in particular, when you’re dealing with a very vulnerable patient population such as children and adolescents, you have a real problem concerning trust in the medical literature. This is not only an issue for prescribing doctors, but it is also a problem for people who set health care policy in government. Also, these articles are very often used in court when the pharmaceutical companies try to defend themselves. So, not only do you have fraud on the medical community but you also have potential fraud in the courts.

    So, how can you possibly claim to have evidence-based practice if it turns out that what you are relying upon is medical journals that are publishing ghostwritten misrepresented results from clinical trials?  The vast majority of studies published are industry-funded studies. You have a serious problem here for evidence-based medicine.

    What’s in a Name? Ghostly Spirits, Spinning Science to Sell Drugs, Stalk the Medical Literature

    By Myron Levin 

    on November 6, 2019

    https://www.fairwarning.org/2019/11/whats-in-a-name-ghost-writing-in-medical-literature/

    One planned paper on a Paxil clinical trial was shelved because ”the side effect data analysis was terribly unfavorable to our favorite antidepressant. And we hate when that happens,” quipped a Dec. 14, 2000 email from Scientific Therapeutics. “There are some data that no amount of spin will fix,” another email said.

    At odds with the data

    But soon after, a paper about another clinical trial, called Study 329, triggered a wave of off-label prescribing of Paxil for adolescent depression. The article, published in the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, concluded that Paxil “is generally well tolerated and effective for major depression in adolescents.” It would later be attacked as an extreme example of spin and distortion. It ”was largely ghostwritten,” according to a 2015 article in The BMJ, and ”claimed efficacy and safety … that was at odds with the data.”

    The manuscript was drafted by Sally K. Laden of Scientific Therapeutics, who had also penned the email about ”our favorite antidepressant.” The lead author, Dr. Martin B. Keller, thanked Laden in a letter. “You did a superb job with this,” he wrote, adding that he and two co-authors were sending some ”rather minor changes.” Published in July, 2001, the article listed 22 authors, but not Laden. A footnote stated: “Editorial assistance was provided by Sally K. Laden, M.S. ”

    FairWarning…

  3. We will be providing hope for those whom the status quo is not working by combining the proven therapeutic potential of ketamine with psychotherapy to treat Addiction, Anxiety, Depression, PTSD, and Eating Disorders.

    At Awakn Clinics, our clients will be placed at the centre of their care plans. Flexibility will be key. We see our clients as individuals, with their own difficulties and needs. We will offer a true alternative to antidepressants, which is bespoke and collaboratively formulated between client and therapist. is a street drug.

    AWAKN – get it? Ketamine is a party drug and also used as hallucinagenic consciousness raising drug – like LSD which is another drug David Knutt has has developed privately to make alcohol free drinks A class of drugs Aldous Huxley described in Heaven and Hell = no telling which a person will potentially experience after taking them
    People can be convicted of an offence if caught using or selling it. They are at risk of severe side effects including suicidal thoughts and death. Coroners are able to put drug related death on inquest reports and certificates when the drug has been used recreationally.Why is it not an offence to use it in private ketamine clinics such as set up by David Knutt and colleagues in Bristol when the risks of adverse effects is presumably the same. And why if a person dies as a result of ketamine being prescribed ,should that not be recorded equally as drug related..
    A 12 treatment will cost £6000 Not sure what the cost at a rave would be.

    • Interesting ‘Notice Regarding Forward-Looking Information ‘
      on Awakn website. They are being very cautious about the future, probably written more for their protection re potential investors – although I know zilch about his kind of thing.
      1 of 1
      Re: Suicide and precribed drugs

      Awakn Life Sciences
      6:56 PM (2 hours ago)
      to me

      Dear Susanne,​

      Thank you for expressing an interest in our treatment and clinical trials, however we regret to inform you that we are not conducting any clinical trials at present or in the near future.

      Kind regards, (Anthony Tennyson CEO)

      E: info@awaknlifesciences.com

      On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 19:13:05 +0100,
      Dear Anthony Tennyson
      Thank you for your letter and information about what Awakn has achieved already re trials and treatments.
      When I read this I was impressed that you are thinking outside the box so thought I would ask if you are doing any work on treating people with prescribed drug induced suicidal thoughts and other adverse effects from especially but not only psychiatric medications.
      You will know that there is nowadays advice about this from regulators and on information leafletts and so on – but there is no treatment available to those who do suffer adverse effects of medications.
      Individuals are commonly told their symptoms are caused by their illness and prescribed yet more drugs.
      If a group such as Awakn which is thinking outside the box could get involved – it would give hope to those for whom no real help otherwise is being undertaken
      I am sure there would be many individuals who to be honest feel abandoned and hopeless who would be interested in volunteering to participate in research with Awakn.
      Hope to hear from as to what you think?
      With best wishes
      Susanne

  4. A Good Bag of Nutts, but even better are these Pistachios…

    Simon Wessely Retweeted

    Richard Vautrey
    @rvautrey
    ·
    26 Aug

    My letter to Daily Telegraph published today in response to unacceptable and demoralising article on GP appointments. The hard work of GPs and their teams should be celebrated not condemned. Join our @BMA_GP ⁩ #supportyoursurgery campaign.

    https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/bma-letter-to-daily-telegraph-in-response-to-article-on-gp-appointments

    Clare Gerada
    @ClareGerada
    ·
    26 Aug

    gp-crisis-serious-covid-doctor-state-profession-day-in-life> thanks ⁦
    @RachelPugh2
    ⁩ for being the first Journaliat to actually spend time with me in my GP role in > 30 years and see what we do that is unseen by everyone else.

    https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/gp-crisis-is-as-serious-an-issue-as-covid-a-doctor-on-why-she-is-furious-about-the-state-of-her-profession-1167646

    GPs are improving their work-life balance while worsening the life-death balance of everyone else
    Distress at being unable to see a doctor in person has hardened into cynicism – it’s no wonder long-suffering patients are losing it

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2021/08/24/gps-improving-work-life-balance-worsening-life-death-balan

    Prof David Healy writes that the RCPsych has in fact known about the problem with antidepressant withdrawal for many years.  He writes:

    “Successive presidents of the British Psychiatric College have been told about this problem for over 20 years since Charles Medawar first wrote to them.  They are in great part personally responsible for ongoing injuries from disbelief to thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people.”

    He suggests it is time for Prof Wendy Burn, current President, and Prof Simon Wessely, former President and husband of Prof Clare Gerada, to “man up”.

    https://davidhealy.org/the-horrific-effects-of-not-being-believed/

    Anyone who is complicit in maintaining this silence, is also complicit in causing immense suffering to patients and for standing by and doing absolutely nothing about it.  I believe this should now be a criminal matter.

    Powerful Embrace

    https://vimeo.com/101303835

    One of the best lines of Comments – EVER

    The His and Her Guide to Holidaying in Scotland…

    • Crisis in General Practice. Silence like a cancer grows.

      The NHS was subject to a “Radical Reorganisation’ at the beginning of 1974. It appears, to those of us who committed our lives to it, that it has been in a ceaseless process of reorganisation ever since, with further ‘re-disorganisation’ to come. This relentless model of change: ‘The Permanently Melting Ice Cube’ model of Change-Management, can certainly challenge medical morale. A jaded starting point to begin to address the enormity of Sars-Cov-2.

      But what has happened to patient-morale leading to this reported crisis in
      trust, and change in public opinion?

      Micro-management and Evidence Debased-Guidelines (dependent on Ghost-Written, academic-malfeasance-distorted clinical trials) with denial of ADRs such as AKATHISIA, PSSD, PGAD, and the repeated misdiagnosis of ADRs certainly erodes trust. Once damaged, trust at the level required for therapeutic patient-doctor relationships may be almost impossible to reconstruct. A spiral of descending morale on both sides of the consultation is a more likely outcome?

      I had a G.P. who listened with concern and with empathy to the iatrogenic tragedy that followed inappropriate SSRI prescribing to my daughter (in a different Practice). He read publications by Professor Healy on PSSD. He learned more about AKATHISIA, and recognised this happen himself. His humility and professionalism meant that I was fortunate enough to be believed and not rejected. I realise that this contrasts with the absolute denial of serious ADRs by some prescribers, especially re psychotropic drugs. I have, I believe, also experienced such response. This leaves those with AKATHISIA; ‘In restless dreams to walk alone”. To fear that their ‘words like silent raindrops fell’. Were their doctors: ‘talking without speaking’, ‘hearing without listening’?

      Then how can we possibly communicate what has happened to us credibly in ten or fifteen minutes of consultation time in a palpably over-running surgery?

      ‘Silence like a cancer grows’. Sounds of Silence. Now more haunting than before.

      As a hospital doctor, I had more time to listen to my patients. I would like to believe that I was hearing them.

  5. ‘Will’s ‘family is hoping an inquest will give some answers. If only – when suicidal he was asking for help for his mental health problems – he was told to download a mindfulness app. Will died after documenting his distress in the hope, he said, of alerting others – alone in a squalid flat

    Share this post BBC News

    Posted at 0:01 27 Aug0:01 27 Aug

    Video caption:
    Autistic teen posted a video about lack of support in health and social care system before he died.

  6. Antidepressant withdrawal: why has it been ignored for so long?

    https://holeousia.com/in-the-world/a-sunshine-act-for-scotland/pe01651-prescribed-drug-dependence-and-withdrawal/antidepressant-withdrawal-why-has-it-been-ignored-for-so-long/

    recovery&renewal
    @recover2renew

    Replying to @jf_moore @Reduxreloaded and 2 others

    Seems quite a very deliberate ‘reframe’ / whitewash by Wendy ..

    Nigel Praities: “Wendy did some research, she went to meetings, looked at the online patient forums, spoke directly with patients and GPs. And like all good scientists, in the face of mounting counter-evidence, she changed her hypothesis.”

    Professor Wendy Burn: “I think the thing that really clinched it for me was GPs. So I went to a big meeting at the Royal College of GPs and we weren’t really there to talk about withdrawal, but I sort of looked round the table and said: ‘Is there a withdrawal problem with antidepressants?’ and every single GP said ‘YES’. So that was when I absolutely realised there was a problem which I had missed.”

    Nigel Praities: “The College, under Wendy’s leadership, has become a major voice for change, pushing, amongst others, for a changes in NICE guidance on withdrawal symptoms, producing guidance for both prescribers and patients on how to taper

    James Moore
    @jf_moore
    ·
    No mention here of all the polite and reasonable interactions that went on. No mention of the behind the scenes work to provide the knowledge that psychiatry should have had about withdrawal. The ‘scientology’ card played again. Extremely disappointing.

    #antidepressants

    https://missd.co/missd-presents-akathisia-info-at-london-conference/

    Recollections may vary…

    • ‘I think the thing that really clinched it for me was GPs’ — I sort of looked round the table and said: ‘is there a withdrawal problem with antidepressants? and every single GP said yes’ —
      We weren’t told if a critical follow up question was asked: ‘And do you warn your patients about this withdrawal problem before you prescribe’?

      GMC 5th April 2021. Update; Good Practice In Prescribing and Managing Medicines and Devices:
      Assessing The Patient’s Needs.
      40 You should reach agreement with the patient on the proposed treatment explaining: a) The likely benefits, risks and impact including serious and common side effects.
      85 You should make patient safety your first priority.

      If the prescriber has been repeatedly advised, and become convinced, that these drugs prevent suicide, it is understandable that this concept may take the first priority.

    • recovery&renewal
      @recover2renew
      ·
      1h

      LETTER: Antidepressant Withdrawal: why has it been ignored for so long? “As patient campaigners on the topic of #antidepressant withdrawal issues, we heartily welcome this PJ podcast…some ‘patient voice’ reactions & twitter comments”

      https://madintheuk.com/2021/09/letter-antidepressant-withdrawal-why-has-it-been-ignored-for-so-long/… via @MITUKTeam

      https://www.madintheuk.com/2021/09/letter-antidepressant-withdrawal-why-has-it-been-ignored-for-so-long/

      A letter regarding the PJ  PODCAST, 26 August 2021: Antidepressant withdrawal: why has it been ignored for so long? – The PJ Pod | Podcast on Spotify. 

      — By Marion Brown, James Moore, Peter Gordon, Ed White, Alyne Duthie

  7. Sarah W has since lost her seat in the UK Prliament She didn’t reply to this as neither did she to mine and no doubt others . She is married to Adrian James who became president of college of psychs . Maybe she had her eye of that prize and wasn’t going to rock that boat.
    BJGP Life
    LETTER TO DR SARAH WOLLASTON – PREVENTION OF SUICIDE AND CONTINUITY OF CARE
    Posted by BJGP Life | 10 Mar 2017 |

    David Zigmond was a small practice GP in south London 1977-2016. You can
    read Obituary for St James Church Surgery here.

    This is an edited extract from a letter to Sarah Wollaston MP, Chair, Parliamentary Health Select Committee.

    PREVENTION OF SUICIDE. THE CRUX OF PERSONAL CONTINUITY OF CARE
    Late in December I heard a radio discussion (BBC Radio 4, Today) about how our community and its designated services might best prevent suicide. All the participants, including you, talked with clear sense about evident truths: our need for adequate (and increasing) funding, the need for skilled vigilance in primary care and in charitable organisations, easy access to joined-up, well-trained specialist services… No surprises and no real contention.

    What I did not hear was anyone emphasising the importance throughout pastoral healthcare – so particularly with the desperately emotionally anguished – of personal continuity of care. No substantial attention was paid to the harm done by serial reforms and modernisations which, generally, have made such personal care increasingly difficult, now often impossible.

    Pastoral healthcare has become increasingly misunderstood, neglected and impoverished.

    Yet recognising and understanding these losses is essential for any therapeutic reparation and engagement. Since my medical qualification more than forty years ago the medical technologies have undoubtedly got better, but the healthcare relationships that administer these are often worse. How this has happened is complex: the consequences, certainly, are unintentional. The result is that, overall, treatments of structural diseases continues to improve, but pastoral (personal) healthcare – that which cannot be quickly fixed by technology – has become increasingly misunderstood, neglected and impoverished. Within this rubric mental healthcare is a prime example.
    In the 1970s I worked as a young psychiatrist. Mostly we were able to provide a kind of flexible and personally attuned care with personal continuity, which has since been driven out by modern systems. This erstwhile care was largely provided by consultant-led general psychiatric ‘firms’ together with family doctors (rather than ‘primary care service providers’) who then worked in much smaller practices with identified patients (‘personal lists’). Both provided cornerstones where patients and practitioners could, through repeated and easier contact, develop bonds of naturally evolving personal knowledge and understanding. Most sufferers of mental health problems and experienced practitioners agree that such personal continuity is essential to the kinds of relationships that can enable first, trust and comfort, and then healing, repair and growth. This work is delicate and nuanced so becomes much more difficult – if not impossible – where there is not the time or context to develop these bonds. It can be helpful to see the evolution and nature of such bonds – between sufferers and healers – as bearing a close resemblance to those that evolve in well-functioning families: both are held together by developing relationships of trust and affection.

    Such a ‘family’ ethos of providing pastoral healthcare has been made more and more unviable by our successive reforms and modernisations. With few exceptions, such ‘progress’ is defined by increasing systemisation so that the vagaries of personal meaning, relationship and attachment are replaced by rapid devices for ‘logical’ process: diagnosis, despatch and packaged intervention. Influence by bespoke individual understanding becomes displaced by generic prescribed ‘treatments’. But with this kind of human complexity we usually find that the greater our efforts of direct control, the less our understanding. If we are heedless of this we risk killing – however inadvertently – the human heart and natural habitat of our pastoral healthcare.

    Modernisation programmes have become – paradoxically – antitherapeutic.

    This change of care ethos from a kind of family nexus to a factory-like complex of contracted ‘service providers’ has increased massively in the last two decades – the last half of my long career in Psychiatry and General Practice. In that time I have seen now both services have become depersonalised in proportion to their systemisation. What does this mean? Increasingly, people do not know one another: contacts more rarely become deeper relationships, not just between doctors and patients, but also between colleagues. Data storage and transfer may be rapid and complete, but the slower, subtler, human processes of growing meaningful attachment, affection and containment have been largely driven out by our reforms. So such modernisation programmes have become – paradoxically – antitherapeutic. Hundreds of conversations I have had with older practitioners and patients support this view – the exceptions are apologist colleagues in management posts.

    What are the devices that have transformed our healthcare family into a factory: from understanding natural processes to driving industrial protocols?

    One source is our illusion that we can treat healthcare as a commodity, utility or manufactured object. From this other things have necessarily evolved: a consumerist view, attempts to monetise and proceduralise all care so that it can be commissioned, traded and controlled. Hence the Internal Market, the purchaser-provider split, autarkic competing NHS Trusts, Clinical Commissioning Groups, commercial-type incentivisations, the Health and Social Care Act (2012) … the list continues to grow. We have been very clever at fashioning such reforms, but very unwise not to see an ineluctable flaw: their destructive human and social effects.

    This dehumanising systemisation of services is seriously demoralising and has led to our poor staff recruitment, sickness, drop-out, burnout, premature retirement … and suicide.

    Our corner-stoned 4Cs – competition, commissioning, commodification and computerisation – have all been much vaunted as assuring more accountable, equitable and efficient healthcare yet have rendered us general practice and mental health services with poorer human contact, engagement and attachment. This dehumanising systemisation of services is seriously demoralising for staff. The work becomes increasingly stressed and impoverished of deeper (human) satisfaction: this has led to our poor staff recruitment, sickness, drop-out, burnout, premature retirement … and suicide. How can complexly distressed patients possibly do well in a service that is itself so sick?

    In the last few years of my work in the NHS I have found it increasingly difficult to offer the kind of personally synergistic, comforting, containing, healing work I used to manage so readily with colleagues. The reasons for this are largely found in our organisational reforms – the kind of thing I have outlined above. Potential suicides pose our trickiest and starkest healthcare questions and tasks. There is always more to think about, to do and undo.

  8. More NICE tosh if anyone can stomache reading it….no user groups were included in the list of contributers they might if they hadn’t been brain washed or bought off with funding have pointed out that it is immoral to publish guidelines whether they can leaglly be ignored or not, (NICE leaving themselves a NICE loophole) which are not based on reliable data as DH keeps on and on and on exposing.

    Shared decision making NICE guideline Published: 17 June 2021 http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng197 © NICE 2021. All rights reserved. Subject to Notice of rights (https://www.nice.org.uk/terms-and-conditions#notice-of-rights).

  9. Patrick D Hahn Retweeted

    BOB FIDDAMAN
    @Fiddaman

    All it would take is one savvy journalist to ask Chris Witty, Patrick Vallance or Boris Johnson the right question. Why won’t Pfizer allow anyone, including the MHRA and CDC, to see the individual Case Report Forms from the on-going vaccine trials? Your Pulitzer awaits…

    Savvy journalist…

    GlaxoSmithKline moves another step closer to finally getting a Covid vaccine approved as drug giant starts phase three trials of one of its four jabs

    No10’s chief scientific advisor Patrick Vallance was previously head of research and development at GSK.

    England’s deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam was also once a consultant for the London-based company.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9942567/GSK-SK-Bioscience-start-late-stage-trial-Covid-19-vaccine.html

    Demand for information – known as a ‘subject access request’ – has increased since the publication of the Commission of Investigation’s report according to the company.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0901/1244136-gsk-information-service/

    Savvy Journalist – Escape from a ‘Paroxetine’ Maze

    Ex-GSK CEO Andrew Witty to join WHO COVID-19 vaccine efforts

    Ex-GSK CEO Ian Hudson Senior Advisor, Integrated Development, Global Health for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

    ‘Catch Me If You Can’ – the movie…

  10. Is there any where we could rely on for good practice ? yet more publications – but little action it seems.
    British Journal of General Practice
    Research
    Medication-related harm in New Zealand general practice: a retrospective records review

    British Journal of General Practice 2021; 71 (709): e626-e633. DOI: https://doi.org/10.3399/BJGP.2020.1126

    Harms from psychiatric drugs
    Response from Susanne
    Published on: 26 August 2021

    For first hand accounts and academic publication please read Rxisk blog and David Healy blog of McMaster University.

  11. http://antidepaware.co.uk/millie-and-the-tsar/

    Dear Mrs Doherty

    Thanks for replying. I want to try to answer your questions in the most helpful way, so it makes sense to start with my understanding of the main issue you have raised.

    SSRI antidepressants can cause akathisia. I have seen many patients with akathisia, caused by different drugs, and it is an extremely unpleasant condition that at its most severe can make people feel desperate and suicidal.

    It’s hard to estimate how often it causes suicide or self-harm, partly because what makes people suicidal is often a mixture of problems – it is rarely caused by one thing. However, the risk is sufficiently concerning for us to be cautious at all times, especially when starting or stopping treatment. It’s essential that the doctor who prescribes SSRIs should inform the patient about this risk, as you say, though I do understand that doctors don’t want to put a patient off taking treatment & getting the balanced message of risks and benefits right can be hard.

    On the national suicide prevention strategy, I need to explain a little of the background. When we came to update the strategy a few years ago, the Government wanted as few changes as possible. We were keen to add something about antidepressants after hearing from families who felt strongly about this and we thought it was best done in the section on treatment of depression in primary care which was mainly about the risks of getting no treatment. So we added a line to the key messages of this section, as follows:

    “There are also risks in the early stages of drug treatment when some patients feel more agitated.” (page 27).

    This may not sound a lot but at the time it seemed an important and unusual acknowledgement to appear in a Government strategy. We used “agitated” because it was a document for the general public rather than clinical guidance for doctors – that’s the job of NICE – or information for patients, which is overseen by the regulator, the MHRA. Current NICE guidance says something more specific about the need for careful monitoring in the early period of treatment, especially in younger people, because of suicide risk.

    I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties your step-daughter has faced. If she has had severe akathisia on withdrawal, it’s an important point of safety to withdraw more slowly, to avoid the distress I’ve mentioned. Most people can come off antidepressants if it’s done over the right time period, and that can vary for different people.

    I hope I’ve answered what you were asking about your step-daughter but if I’ve misunderstood please feel able to come back to me. Of course, I’ve “unblocked” you – happy to do this – but being in touch by email is a lot better than twitter.

    With best wishes

    Louis Appleby

    https://fiddaman.blogspot.com/2019/10/uk-suicide-expert-akathisia-can-make.html#.YTHzEfeSk2x

    Record numbers of children are being prescribed antidepressants

    Kat Lay, Health Editor
    Tuesday August 31 2021, 12.01am, The Times

    Children are being prescribed antidepressants in record numbers, new figures from the NHS reveal. In 2020, there were 231,791 prescriptions for the drugs issued to children aged between five and sixteen.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/record-numbers-of-children-are-being-prescribed-antidepressants-88268m0rt?mc_cid=d2b3caea3d&mc_eid=UNIQID

    Rxisk is still there…

  12. As someone who was put on antidepressants at age 13, now 23 years ago it really hurts me to see that this is a practice that is still continuing and to see it is not just limited to my own country (Belgium).

    It remains impossible to understand that while the information is available on this site, in an accessible way it still doesn’t get through to the people making those decisions.

    It’s not that the information isn’t in other places either. I was recently looking through the guidelines of the Belgian pharmacologists who basically publish the book/site that every doctor has and it’s actually in there. On occasion I have seen them link to for instance Rxisk with regards to the recognition of the EMA on PSSD. It is mentioned if I interpreted it correctly that psychotherapy should be the default treatment for depression.

    Recently here there had been an announcement that psychotherapy would be covered more by the government health insurance system and that a session would end up being more affordable (you’d get 20 sessions at the price of € 11/per session instead of the default € 55). Turns out it’s only in a trial phase currently so extremely limited. Just an empty promise again.

    For governments who only look at the short time it remains much easier and cheaper to “subsidize” medication and the consultation of the pill pushers instead of investing in the better long term outcome of the patients. Not seeing that getting people better has a much higher impact on their budget. Less costs for disability/unemployment and so much more.

    And importantly they seem to forget or is it ignore, that the most important thing in medicine should be to do no harm.

    I’ve been lucky that after so many years I’m now in a situation where I can afford a private psychologist and the progress I’ve been making in the last year is huge. Compared to the 20+ years on psychopharma cocktails.. Thanks to all of those who are still fighting against this, listen to their patients and give them a voice!

  13. Generation Sedated: why record numbers of our children are on antidepressants

    The number of young people taking pills is rising, even though GPs aren’t supposed to prescribe them. What does the science say?

    ByMiranda Levy4 September 2021 • 5:00am

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/generation-sedated-record-numbers-children-antidepressants/

    The number of children on antidepressants has soared. Is it a real crisis or one invented by psychiatrists seeking new patients?

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/534062-children-antidepressants-psychiatrists-crisis/

    The medicalisation of childhood is one of the most depressing features of Anglo-American child rearing. Year by year, it’s getting worse.

    The problem of mental health is fast becoming synonymous with childhood. Unfortunately, the medical establishment is more than happy to solve the problems of children by shoving drugs down their throats. This alarming trend was highlighted by new NHS figures published at the end of last month that showed that prescriptions for antidepressants given to British children aged 5 to 16 has risen by 22% during the past five years.

    Predictably, the prescribing of antidepressant drugs has spiked since the lockdown. The tendency to medicalise children’s behaviour has intensified since the outbreak of the coronavirus and sedating them is frequently regarded as the most effective way of dealing with their problems.

    Frank Furedi’s 100 Years Of Identity Crisis: The Culture War Against Socialisation is published by Routledge Press later this month.

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