Baby Boomerang

July, 17, 2017 | 21 Comments


  1. One thing I’ve been thinking a lot about recently – not directly relevant here but part of the bigger picture:

    a crucial, confounding factor in getting adverse effects – from relatively mild to catastrophic – properly acknowledged by Big P, prescribers, health care professionals, many patients and friends and family is that fact that I know many people who happily pop the pills with no devastating and obvious ill effects. Maybe a bit of stomach trouble for a week or so? (Leaving aside any long term damage). So – Big P starts from a huge advantage – show us all these people who cut themselves, attempt suicide….where exactly are they? Hiding the trial data is arguably easier, because deep down few lay people have direct experience of really appalling drug-induced agitation/disinhibition/violence. A fair few people I know believe the drugs I took had nothing to do with what I did. Others are willing to suspend an embedded belief that any drug could cause anyone to go berserk, but I guess, deep down, are sceptical. As for medics – when I was on the rampage I was under the care of psychiatrists, at the ‘secondary’, expert, consultant level. I very, very rarely saw a GP. How many of us here, were under the sole care of a GP?

    (Huge thunderstorm just started so posting in haste)

    I would love to get a ball park percentage for how many of those, prescribed an antidepressant, have the sort of extreme reaction I had. We are a self-selected cohort here – but any number cruncher who could tot up the number of prescriptions, look at reported data around akathisia and make a (necessarily crude) calculation would be doing me a big favour. It would be interesting too, to calculate how many people get passed from GP to psychiatrist because they are getting worse on the pills, not better. We have a very bi-partite system here – once you’ve been thrown to the consultants, that’s pretty much it. Then the thorny matter of diagnoses of personality disorder and bi-polar showering down …as I write, I realise it’s a big, messy matter. But I just yearn to get a handle on the numbers. Sadly my maths skills are zilch. Although given the numbers, I could wield a calculator I suppose.

    • Sally, do you think it might be an idea for you to make a list of the questions you would like answered, maybe with yes/no/other tick boxes and a space to explain if reply is ‘other’? Just thought it may be easier for you to glean the necessary info in this way? – not that I’m a fan of tick boxes but would serve a purpose here I feel!
      Good luck with your survey – will you accept replies from family/friend/carer if memory of the one on tablets is patchy? If so, I’ll fill you in soon.

  2. Commenting on Lacasse and Leo’s work, Professor David Healy of the North Wales Department of Psychological Medicine, said: “The serotonin theory of depression is comparable to the masturbatory theory of insanity.

    “In the case of these myths, the key question is whose interests are being served by a widespread promulgation of such views rather than how do we test this theory.”

    Leonie‏ @leoniefen 10h10 hours ago

    Replying to @Fiddaman @BarendsTherapy
    Via @DrDavidHealy

    Adult Boomers …

  3. It just goes to show ..

    Do English mental health services know whether they followed N.I.C.E. guidelines with patients who killed themselves?

    Accessing suicide-related information

    The UK government just published a National Suicide Prevention Strategy (Public Health England, 2017). One of its five action areas is ‘Improving data at national and local level and how this data is used to help take action and target efforts more accurately’.

    Given that preventing suicide is one of the primary purposes of any mental health service, and one of the justifications for forcibly detaining and medicating people, services must have systems for monitoring compliance with NICE guidelines.

    It is concerning that 45% of the organizations provided no information. It seems particularly problematic that we found four private organizations operating beyond the jurisdiction of the FOI Act. Three stated this explicitly. One simply ignored the request. There should be a level playing field for NHS providers and private organizations serving NHS patients.

  4. Mary – you’ve put me very properly on the spot! I’m fond of throwing out ideas, less fond of getting off my backside and doing something myself. That’s an excellent idea. I’ll have a think about a very simple questionnaire and/ or whether it would work in a blog format. Meanwhile anyone reading who is comfortable with numbers/figures could help hugely? As for imperfect memory/recall – I don’t think that matters one iota. I was thinking in very crude (unscientific) terms anyway. Thanks for the push.

  5. Open letter endorsing the Report of the United Nations special Rapporteur on the right of everyone to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health

    The ‘Horlicks’ stays in India ..

    John Woodcock‏Verified account @JWoodcockMP 19h19 hours ago

    Company is clear its decision is not related to Brexit. But decision to cancel shows GSK made a monumental misjudgement of biopharm market

  6. “Completely changes the game” – MHRA

    The Medicines & Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) told Sky News that the availability of sedatives, tranquilisers and opioids on the platform “completely changes the game”.

    Danny Lee-Frost, head of enforcement at the MHRA, told Sky News: “The sleeping pills and antidepressants are a lot more dangerous.

    “People have committed suicide as the ultimate resort to try and get off them. These are fiercely addictive.”

    Sky News investigation: Prescription drugs sold illegally on Facebook

  7. One step ..

    Special task force formed

    “We will show the hunger, the positivity and the spirit which led to Ulverston being singled out for the now cancelled biopharm investment in the first place”

    Mr Woodcock added: “I spoke to life sciences minister Lord Prior this morning who made clear the government will assist our efforts to save the plant after the shock announcement. The cancellation is a big blow for UK PLC as well as the Cumbrian economy so it is vital the government steps up to help turn this situation around.”

    Two-step ..

    Tim Farron: GSK should leave ‘dowry’ for future investment and jobs

    “People feel betrayed and many residents are understandably concerned about the impact on jobs. GSK should commit to leaving a substantial dowry of several million pounds, to show good faith to the local community.

    Leaving even a fraction of the £350million that GSK would have invested would help to support local jobs and partially compensate local residents for this blow. Our local community has shown deep commitment to GSK. GSK must now show an ongoing commitment to our community. Anything else will be an appalling betrayal.”

    – Tim Farron, South Lakeland MP

    Out of step ..

    Describing the approach after presenting her first set of results in April, she said: “We will need to be switching off some areas.”

    Isn’t it just incredible that Seroxat is never referred to, as a former blockbuster, and one wonders when Seroxat will be up for sale or even siphoned off .. I would imagine Emma Walmsley will be considering her options and may be it will be mentioned on Wednesday, 26 July on the live Investor Event Webcast at 2.00 pm and a few hours later on Panorama ..

    A Prescription for Murder” @ShelleyJofre investigates the link between SSRIs and homicide via @BBCPanorama BBC1, WED JULY 26, 21:00 BST

    Latest afternoon reporting is from Clr Brook

    Cllr Brook said that although the current SLDC local plan, which determines housing development, will not be changed there is a possibility any future plans will take the GSK withdrawal into account.


    I was reading copious amounts of news about GSK and Ulverston when the Sky News line flashed at the bottom of the page about Drugs on Facebook. I left Ulverston to check out the story which gave out the admission from Danny Lee-Frost, quote below, from my comment.

    Danny Lee-Frost, head of enforcement at the MHRA, told Sky News: “The sleeping pills and antidepressants are a lot more dangerous.

    “People have committed suicide as the ultimate resort to try and get off them. These are fiercely addictive.”

    Bob Fiddaman


    The original article was posted on Sky News at 10.14am

    I contact the MHRA aand Danny Lee-Frost at 11.38am

    Sky News change their page with edits at 3.15pm

    This is the ‘changed quotation’ from Danny Lee-Frost

    Danny Lee-Frost, head of enforcement at the MHRA, told Sky News: “The sleeping pills and antidepressants are a lot more dangerous.

    “Sleeping pills particularly, they can be addictive. People have committed suicide as the ultimate resort to try and get off them. These are fiercely addictive.”

  9. The research from her book has prompted  a 1 hour BBC Panorama Special that investigates whether  an antidepressant could be the cause of  one of the worst mass killings of this century.  It is due to air on 26 July at 9 pm. 

    The Pill That Steals Lives/About

    The book has been  endorsed by leading academic and world expert on antidepressants Professor David Healy:

    “If you think this case is exceptional, think again. Katinka Blackford Newman eloquently and vividly describes a medical horror coming your way soon”

    Oliver Thring
    July 23 2017, 12:01am, 

    The Sunday Times


    A dribbling, suicidal mess — until I kicked the kill pills

    Antidepressants are being linked to psychosis and even mass murder. One woman who nearly lost everything tells Oliver Thring how she thought she had stabbed her children

    In January 2012, after 13 happy years, Katinka Blackford Newman’s marriage suddenly fell apart. That September she realised she would not be able to keep the family home in north London that she shared with her children Lily and Oscar, then 11 and 10. She grew anxious and unhappy. The worrying led to insomnia, so Blackford Newman, a documentary film maker, went to see a psychiatrist. He took 20 minutes to diagnose clinical depression and prescribe escitalopram (Lexapro), a common antidepressant.

    After a few doses Blackford Newman had become psychotic. She began raving incomprehensibly, unable to stop moving because of a painful and frightening condition called akathisia. Her vision blurred and she started hallucinating …

  10. Previously ..

    Fiddaman Blog

    Did the British drug regulator, the MHRA, contact Sky News and request for the word “antidepressants” to be removed from original article posted on the Sky News website last week?

    “People shout ‘kiddy killer’ at him in the street

    Soon after Blackford Newman left hospital, she met David Healy, a psychiatry professor and former secretary of the British Association for Psychopharmacology. Healy has spent years warning of the alleged dangers of antidepressants and other drugs. He notes that 25 years ago about 1 in 10,000 patients in Britain received a diagnosis of depression; today between half and a fifth of us will receive the diagnosis during our lifetimes.

    “The clinical trials show that more people commit suicide on these drugs than are saved by them,” he says. “The same applies to homicide.”

    Healy estimates that across Europe up to 2,500 suicides every year and a similar number of violent episodes could be triggered by reactions to antidepressants. The figures, he claims, are broadly similar in America. They are disputed by the pharmaceutical industry and most psychiatrists, who say the drugs save lives.

    After leaving hospital, Blackford Newman met David Carmichael, director of a Canadian government fitness programme. In 2004 he increased his dosage of a common antidepressant, paroxetine (Seroxat). This had been found in 2002 to cause more withdrawal problems than any other drug then licensed in Britain.

    In 2001 GlaxoSmithKline, which manufactures Seroxat, paid a $6.4m settlement to the relatives of a “non- violent family man and doting grandfather”, according to reports, who had murdered his wife, daughter and granddaughter before committing suicide while taking the drug. Blackford Newman alleges drug companies have paid billions of dollars settling similar cases.

  11. He has taken out a $20 million lawsuit against Glaxosmithkline, the maker of Seroxat, on the grounds of personal injury and product liability.

    ‘I believe there have been many, many deaths associated with Seroxat and I want to see the data on the table,’ says David.

    A spokesman for Glaxosmithkline said: ‘Mr Carmichael’s case is clearly a tragedy, but medicines like paroxetine are an important option for treating depression and have helped many people.

    ‘Patient safety is our priority and there is no scientific evidence that paroxetine causes homicidal, psychotic, or violent behaviour.

    ‘We continue to monitor paroxetine’s safety and make our research available. It is important that patients do not change how they take their medicine, or stop taking it altogether, without speaking to their doctor.’

    Professor Healy believes David Carmichael was ‘almost certainly’ in the grip of SSRI psychosis when he killed Ian.


    When is A Prescription For Murder? on BBC One, who is Shelley Jofre and what’s the documentary about?

    Who is James Homes and what was the Aurora massacre?

    James Eagan Holmes was born December 13, 1987 and is an American convicted mass murder.
    He was responsible for the Aurora cinema shooting that killed 12 people and injured 70 others at a Century movie theatre in Aurora, Colorado, on July 20, 2012.
    He walked into a midnight screening of Batman movie The Dark Knight Rises and threw two gas canisters into the audience.
    Many in the audience thought it was a publicity stunt until he began spraying the crown with the shotgun, then the assault rifle and finally the pistol.
    A witness said he went outside and and shot people as they ran.
    Cops apprehended Holmes in his car behind the cinema within minutes of the shooting.

    He told them that he was “The Joker”.

    On August 7 2015 Holmes was sentenced to life in prison without parole, avoiding the death penalty because the jury could not come to a unanimous decision.

    With exclusive access to psychiatric reports, court footage and drug company data, reporter Shelley Jofre investigates..

  13. ‘Unite’ in the Backlash ..

    ‘Tony Devlin, national officer for the pharmaceutical industry, added: “We will be meeting with the UK senior management next week to discuss the reasons behind this announcement which has come as a significant blow for Unite members and looking at the detailed business case for these proposed redundancies and changes in national strategy.

  14. Home country ..

    Apropos, Sky News and MHRA gate .. and ..

    The new CEO has already shown she is prepared to reverse the direction, and some of the promises, of her predecessor Andrew Witty, and has the courage to take steps likely to be politically unpopular in the home country.

    GSK will increase its presence in the chronic drugs space by “getting products from parent’s innovation pipeline and partly by local and international deals,” said Andrew Aristidou, its chief financial officer.


    TRM123 July 25, 2017 at 11:52 am

    More courageous advocacy providing hope that those prescribed SSRIs may be better informed.

    Of utmost importance: – a chance for patient and prescriber to be aware of the most dangerous of the psychotropic drug induced toxicities – AKATHISIA.

    The Court Transcripts – (Dolin v GSK) Chicago 2017 reveal how the dangers of SSRI induced akathisia had been allegedly hidden from prescribers and their patients by the both SSRI manufactures and the drug regulators.


    1 in 5 of patients taking SSRIs will have clinically significant akathisia.
    As high as 50% with antipsychotics.
    The suffering of the patient and that of their loved ones is profound.
    The intense and increasing agitation, pacing, iatrogenic change in behaviour and personality, aggression and acute neurotoxicity-induced self harm, violence against self or others predispose to incompetent and erroneous misdiagnosis of serious mental illness (SMI) where none exists.
    Such failure of basic differential diagnosis may result in detention and enforced “medication” with more of the same classes of drugs that induced this life threatening adverse drug reaction. (ADR).
    There appears little medical interest in the potential to prevent akathisia and its incumbent risk of iatrogenic suicidality and completed suicide by using genomic sequencing tests to identify those who have an impaired ability to metabolise prescription psychoactive drugs.

    Thank you Katinka.

    TRM 123. Retired Consultant Physician.

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