Company Woman or Mother?

October, 11, 2021 | 17 Comments


  1. An apropos hit – and the Fathers :

    I am an educated professional, working full-time, married, a father, a homeowner. Why do you think I am insane?

    Patrick D Hahn
    @PatrickDHahn 3h

    How can all this NOT result in our being awash in useless and dangerous “medicines?”

    Joanne’s father, Mike, added, “When Joanne showed me the information about the “mystery woman” and the trail it brought to light, part of me thought “makes perfect sense for a company like GSK”. My daughter and others are morally showing what GSK is.”

     “Sadly, to lose such a stranglehold on the American antidepressant market saw them opt out of the transparency they boast about today, a transparency that has TV and media doctors applauding GSK and singing their praises. For what exactly? Those same high profile doctors currently singing the praises of GSK should watch the above video in its entirety. Even when faced with a human birth defect they decide to keep the results “in-house”, yet another failure to warn the public about Paxil’s propensity to cause birth defects.” – Part II – The Twists

    A Media Storm This Morning –

    We are alerted to a loose canon, a TV Doctor, and I have chosen Jane for her ‘Mislead the Nation’ meme

    James Moore

    Replying to @Dr_Ellie@thismorningand 2 others

    Dr Ellie, do you think it is appropriate to be telling people about a serotonin imbalance in the brain and that SSRIs increase serotonin when no such thing has ever been found? Even @rcpsych disavowed this myth in 2017.

    As a new study reveals that 56% of people would be likely to relapse within a year of stopping antidepressants, could the answer be to make them a more long term medication for patients?Maybe, says Dr Ellie Cannon, who joins us to unpack the myths surrounding antidepressants, and reveal how they work.

    Jane Jackson
    Replying to @jf_moore@recover2renewand 5 others

    DR Ellie Catton Disgusted to hear your ill-informed views on anti-depressants. You seem quite manipulative. I can only hope that you take some time out from yr celebrity lifestyle to research, U will then find that u have misled the nation.
    #GTTO #Johnson variant.


    OH DEAR .. !!

    God Bless the Father the Son and the ‘Holy Ghost’ …

  2. Hi David,

    June Raine’s MHRA has been doing this a lot.

    But here is evidence of how the MHRA alters and covers up drug adverse reaction reports and in this case how children developed narcolepsy and cataplexy as a result. You assisted me with this case and you are quoted in one of the following articles:

    [1] ‘Re: A tale of two vaccines – MHRA Published Incomplete ADR Data’, 14 October 2018,

    [2] ‘Re: A tale of two vaccines – MHRA – 6 Reports of “rare” suspected ADR in 60 days ignored’, 18 October 2018,

    [3] ‘Re: A tale of two vaccines – MHRA Had 178 Pandemrix Altered Consciousness Adverse Event Reports in 67 Days’, 23 October,


    • The Raine in June Falls Mainly in …

      [Addition Dec 2020:  Hudson left GSK in the midst of this trial and joined MHRA later becoming its CEO – succeeded now by June Raine].

      Letter from the Chairman, Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, to the Clerk of the Committee (PI 124)

      As an employee of SKB, therefore, he was not involved in the original application for a licence for Seroxat in 1990 or in the action to contra-indicate the product for use in children taken by this Agency in June 2003. Since his employment with the MHRA began, he has taken no part in decisions relating regulatory action on this product in the UK or in Europe.

       For example, an article in Current Problems in Pharmacovigilance in 1993 provided Yellow Card data on withdrawal reactions reported with Seroxat following experience in clinical use and stated that they had been reported more frequently with paroxetine than with other SSRIs. Warnings about withdrawal reactions (especially with paroxetine) are repeated in the British national formulary, supplied to all doctors.

      I hope that you find this additional information useful.

      Burn in Hell

      Here is Ian Hudson being deposed in 2001, then head of Global Safety at GSK, later a member of the British regulatory apparatus, the MHRA:

      Q.  Okay. So, your view is: It’s simply impossible for SmithKline Beecham to decide whether Paxil did or did not contribute to the homicidal or suicidal behavior of any one given individual; is that your testimony?

      A.  We would certainly gather all the information, but on an individual case basis it would be impossible to decide whether paroxetine caused an event or not… It is impossible, on an individual case basis, from individual reports, to assign causality especially in a very complicated area such as this. That’s why, when we have issues, we review all the available data and make a determination, on the basis of all the available data, whether there is an issue or not.

      Q.  Okay. Do you believe that it is possible that Paxil has caused any person, worldwide, to commit an act of homicide or suicide?

      A:  I have seen no evidence to suggest that at all.[2]

      Referred back to doctor

      Here is an unknown woman in 2001 contacting GSK. She terminated her first pregnancy, after radiology showed the baby had a serious heart defect (truncus arteriosus) and would likely not survive.

      The response from GSK is as follows:

      Rivers run Deep…

  3. It was pure luck that Joanne reached out to me.

    Her story was one of despair. She’d gone through the legal system only to be told, pretty much, that she didn’t have a case.

    When we spoke, via email and over the phone, alarm bells rang. I’d previously watched and uploaded the Nieman deposition video to YouTube. I asked Joanne to watch it, it was then she realised that she was the mysterious American woman that lawyers had been trying to track down for many years.

    Over the period of a couple of months we pieced together the jigsaw. I contacted her lawyers and told them they had missed a trick. Presumably, they were delighted – they’d now get their 40% cut armed with evidence they had previously missed. They told Joanne to cease contact with me at this point. Joanne chose not to.

    I was then privy to some of the inside dealings between her lawyers and GSK’s.

    Fair to say, GSK were upset that a case they had thought they had put to bed had now resurfaced, moreover, they didn’t really have a leg to stand on by way of defence.

    A settlement was offered which Joanne later accepted, her lawyers taking the standard 40% cut for their ‘work’ on the case, evidence given to them on a plate by a Brummie blogger.

    The settlement came with a gagging order, meaning Joanne could never talk about it.

    Nieman’s video deposition is a rare insight into how GSK indoctrinate and manipulate human minds. Throughout, Nieman seems scared to offer an opinion – as a mother herself she will know that being forced to abort due to a corporation concealing the truth is abhorrent by anyone’s standards, yet we see her time and time again stutter her way through answers and protect the corporation that she once worked for. This, for me at least, shows a lack of compassion for fellow women. It’s a clear message that anyone involved in suppression of safety information have blackened hearts, particularly when it comes to protecting expectant mothers and the foetus inside.

    Nieman had a chance to lay it all on the line, she had a chance to condemn those who had suppressed information – for whatever reason she just couldn’t do that and, to my knowledge, has never condemned her former employers.

    No sleepless nights for Nieman, plenty for Joanne Thomas.

    Despicable, abhorrent, behaviour by all concerned, including GSK’s highly paid attorneys.

  4. Ellie says she takes ADs – wonder which one ?. Snippetts From 2012 to 2021
    Unsure whether Ellie still works as an expert for Pampers but guess there was no conflict of interest? hubby is a lawer .GP Dr Ellie Cannon, from the Pampers’ expert panel, says:’m proud to be working with Pampers as they really care about what’s best for babies, constantly innovating to create great products. The new Pampers Premium Protection™ range protects and cares for your baby’s skin every step of the way, from newborn through to potty training, meaning that every new product helps to support your baby’s wellbeing.”

    She was involved in the baby milk scandal
    Baby Milk ActionProtecting breastfeeding – Protecting babies fed on formula
    Nestle press releasing information on breastfeeding and protein to promote SMA brand – while hiding information from parents on why its formula is on clearance sale
    Baby Milk Action press release 7 March 2016

    Issuing the results of a survey is an old trick for companies to try to gain free publicity in the media. Nestlé is today trying to bypass restrictions on advertising its SMA brand of infant formula with a press release campaign on mothers’ knowledge about breastfeeding and protein. It has recruited “media doctor” Dr Ellie Cannon who, according to her website, is “best known for her weekly health column in the Mail on Sunday and her regular appearance on Sky News Sunrise”. Nestlé’s marketing company is attempting to set up interviews with Dr Cannon to speak on the “changing protein composition of breast milk” as part of Nestlé’s new SMA PRO infant formula rollout.
    …..The press release does not mention the fact that Nestlé is relaunching its SMA formula as babies fed on the current product have “protein intake in excess of requirements”, according to information sent to health workers.
    The company, which is the target of a boycott for unethical baby milk marketing practices around the world, is trying to divert attention from this, while presenting itself as an expert on protein. In the meantime, supermarkets, such as Tesco, are desperately trying to clear their shelves of the current formula, which has led to a campaign in Parliament for formula marketing regulations to be enforced.

    CLICK HERE to watch Dispatches: Breastfeeding uncovered.
    Broadcast on UK Channel 4 on Monday 30th July, 2018 and includes Baby Milk Action’s Policy Director, Patti Rundall being interviewed by Kate Quilton.

    There has been a great response to this program, especially on social media. But also some vitriolic attacks – one from Dr Ellie Cannon in the Mail on Sunday. Worth remembering our Press Release from 2016 – showing her links with Nestle and the SMA brand. Funny she didn’t mention that in the article. Here are some excerpts:

    “Just because formula is manufactured – yes, processed – it doesn’t mean it’s unhealthy. Processed merely means ingredients have undergone a process (chopping a tomato is a process, as is heating soup).”… In fact, formula milk is more than a healthy choice, and recent additions to ingredients means it now contains more essential fatty acids and pre and probiotics –…Complaint to the GMC about Dr Ellie
    Complaint to the GMC about Dr Ellie

    5th June 2012
    General Medical Council
    FAO: Fitness to Practise
    350 Euston Road
    NW1 3JN
    Dear Sirs, We write as a group of mothers who breastfeed or have breastfed our children beyond their first year. We would like to make a formal complaint about an article written by Dr Elise (Ellie) Rebecca Cannon (GMC number 6030416), published in the Daily Mail on the 20th May 2012. You can access a copy of the article here and we have enclosed a copy with this correspondence: We would like to draw your attention to serious inaccuracies in her article and various assertions which we consider to be unprofessional for a registered GP to make and, in our view, breach GMC guidelines. We outline these in detail below. The article deals with ‘attachment parenting’ and, in particular, sustained (or natural-term) breastfeeding…….

    • Dr Ellie obviously has her fingers in many pies! Her attitude, in every interview that I have seen, is that of a very superior no-nonsense person. ‘Superior’ and ‘no-nonsense’ are fine if you are coming out with truths but not so when what is being said is the ‘truth’ as it was seen very many years ago and is no longer regarded as the ‘truth’ at all.

  5. Perhaps we need a social commentary on this when it all ends up on the desk of “Raining” on her parade…

    Dear Dr Raine,

    “Electric head” symptoms during attempted withdrawal from SSRI etc antidepressants

    I have attached to this letter a small sample of the descriptions users have given of a widely-reported phenomenon classically linked to withdrawal from paroxetine and other SSRIs – and often referred to by users as in terms such as, “electric head,” “zaps,” “head shocks”, or “brain shivers.” Many email reports from visitors to the Social Audit website have suggested: [a] that this is one of the main underlying causes of the unsteadiness, dizziness and nausea commonly experienced in attempted withdrawal, and [b] that they have found it very difficult to describe this phenomenon to doctors and/or that the doctor’s response conveys that they have failed to convince him/her that this is a symptom of drug withdrawal. However, the same phenomenon has been reported from time to time in case reports, published since 1993:

    Dear Dr Raine,

    Paroxetine: withdrawal symptoms and dependence

    1. I would be grateful if you could let me know the date of the meeting when the CSM is likely to consider the two outstanding matters referred to in your letter of 3rd July.

    2. Assuming we are still in time, please would you draw Members’ attention to the evidence of abuse of SSRIs outlined in the attachment to this letter?

    Mark Horowitz

    Like a flashback to the 1990s – a GP disappointingly spouts lines from her medical school days mostly written by the marketing department of drug companies. Hugely ill-informed.

    Joanna Moncrieff
    So many things wrong with this – but mainly that it encourages even more people to start and stay on antidepressants, and promotes the mythical idea that they ‘only stop the bad feelings’

    “Having complained so much about their oppressive workloads, GPs could eventually find that most of the job has been sliced off and transferred elsewhere.

    To avoid that fate, they should return to their moral roots as family doctors – and simply ignore the BMA”.

    Renee Hoenderkamp is an NHS GP

    Wow – give this woman a damehood, chairship of GPs –

    Clare thinks she is being futuristic and bold but in reality she is leading GPs and Patients down a blind-alley –

    Clare Gerada
    i was taught 40 years ago that 80% of the diagnosis (and certainly in GP) is based on the history alone. Our work with digital shows this to be true.

    Imagine all the distress from antidepressant withdrawal just being on the ‘phone, there is every chance of changing medication, upping medication as doctors, already in denial, sending yet another off to their death. There is every chance of even more deaths from antidepressants.
    Simon has already proved himself immensely incompetent in this area.

    And one from Fiona :

    It doesn’t just Raine, it pours…

    • Sorry to Bother you Doctor
      It’s no wonder receptionists, although many are infamous for the obnoxious way they treat people, bear the brunt of much of the anger in surgeries when they are being used to block access to doctors. At this practice in N London the way the directive is worded is telling ‘if anyone is ‘unwilling’ to discuss their medical issues with a receptionist they are penalised. The receptionist is now proposed to be part of the medical team. It is disengenuous. those who require privacy (‘unwilling’ individuals) can feel uncomfortable about declining to discuss things with a receptionist .

      Routine, not urgent
      We repond within one working day to confirm receipt, but thereafter it is typically 3 days before your issue will be reviewed by a cinician, and up to 5 working days for administrative issues

      For a single issue only
      The eConsult tool is developed to collect information for one issue at a time. We will ask you to resubmit online consultations that contain multiple requests

      Routine Appointments
      As before, you can still book to see the doctor of your choice several weeks ahead

      Same-day appointments for URGENT care can be arranged by calling the surgery to request a callback from the triage doctor. The receptionist will ask you to provide a brief description of the issue to help the doctor who will be calling you back. They may ask you instead to book a planned appointment or direct you to our online form where you can submit a question for a doctor, the practice pharmacist or our administration team.

      Where the test results are reassuring, your doctor will record this on your notes but will not contact you directly – it is important that you follow up on your own test results so you know that your tests have been reported and the results checked by a doctor.
      Urgent results are followed up as soon as possible. For non-urgent results that need further action, your doctor will contact you in 5 working days.

      Routine telephone appointments are released every day and can be booked online, via the NHS App or by telephone

      Lines are open to discuss urgent same-day appointments from 8am – 10.30am and from 2pm – 4pm. If you call outside these times you will not be able to request an emergency appointment.
      The receptionist will ask you to provide a brief description of your probelm, and will discuss this with the triage doctor. This doctor is based with the reception team to prioritise the hundreds of request we receive each day. We regret that patients unwilling to discuss their urgent issue with a receptionist can only be offered a routine appointment.

      The triage doctor will assess your issue then instruct the receptionist to add you to the list for a same-day callback from a clinician, or help you book a routine appointment. The practice has a limited number of emergency appointments each day. Once these are all allocated, your options will be to call NHS 111 (who may be able to arrange an appointment at your local urgent treatment centre), speak to your local pharmacist, book a routine appointment or try again the next day.

  6. Re: Half of people who stopped long term antidepressants relapsed within a year, study finds Elisabeth Mahase. 374:doi 10.1136/bmj.n2403
    Dear Editor

    This study will reassure those who wish to continue on their antidepressants and to the pharmaceutical companies that produce these drugs. However, as a jobbing GP actually treating these patients I am less reassured. For many patients who have been on anti-depressants for more than a few years a 2 month tapering period is insufficient. We have become increasingly aware that many of the symptoms these patient experience on stopping their anti-depressants are due to the drug withdrawal itself rather a return of the “illness”. It also important to reflect on the study’s finding that 39% of those who continued on their anti-depressants suffered relapses.
    It is my experience that with a significantly longer taper (the sort of tapers we use for benzodiazepine users) together with active support many can stop the medication. I also worry that there is not enough of a concern with regard to possible permanent changes in brain chemistry, down -regulation of 5HT and beta-1 receptors as well as changes in serotonin receptor sensitivity with long-term use of these drugs. This might not be a problem over decades but we just do not know.
    Depression and anxiety is a biopsychosocial illness and for many of our patients addressing the non-biological aspects although much more difficult is infinitely more rewarding. We must beware the easy option of just writing a prescription and moving on to the next patient.

    Competing interests: No competing interests

    15 October 2021
    Gary Singh Marlowe
    de Beauvoir Surgery
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  7. In 2015 – the same doctor (above) Gary S M denies link to suicide
    Hackney Gazette > News
    Doctor denies SSRI pills’ link to young mum’s death
    Published: 9:58 AM May 15, 2015 Updated: 7:12 PM December 7, 2020

    A young mum who was found hanging had been taking SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) anti-depressants, which have been linked with an increased risk of suicidal thoughts, an inquest heard.

    Yuri Ito was found by her partner Akio Fukushima in the bathroom in their home in Dalston Lane on December 10 when he returned from work, after becoming concerned she was not answering his phone calls.
    Ms Ito, a 29-year-old Japan-born photographer who ran a café in Hertford Road, had been to A&E six weeks earlier on October 30 suffering from anxiety.

    The Homerton hospital psychiatrist believed the young mother, who was having difficultly adapting to life in the UK, was reacting to stress, and they agreed to proceed with SSRI antidepressant medication.

    Some studies have shown that SSRIs may increase suicidal ideas in some patients, and many SSRIs carry black box warnings about the potential for increased suicide risk when starting the drugs.

    Ms Ito next saw Dr Gary Marlow at the De Beauvoir Surgery in Hertford Road on November 11 after suffering severe panic attacks.

    In a statement read out at Poplar Coroner’s Court, Dr Marlow said: “She was fearful of everything with no reason, she couldn’t get out of bed for the last two weeks.”

    He “pushed up the dose” of the SSRI pill sertraline, and also prescribed Zopiclone to help her sleep.

    She returned to see him on December 8, two days before her death, because she had run out sleeping tablets.

    “She said she felt better and she could get out of bed, and take her daughter to school,” said Dr Marlow.

    “It was a terrible shock and with a sad heart I found of her death.

    “There were no obvious suggestions she had any suicidal thoughts. She has a three-year-old daughter and she was concerned for her and that she couldn’t care for her – I took this as a strong protective factor against any suicidal thoughts.”

    He continued: “There have been suggestions that SSRIs may aggravate suicidal ideation, I don’t believe this to be the case here, it tends to be in children and adolescents.”

    Coroner William Dolman said there was no evidence Ms Ito had deliberately intended to take her life and returned an open verdict.

  8. How to hide the truth behing codes. Incredible – or not really – that there;s still no code for suicidal thoughts and suicide by people taking psych (and some other) medications ‘ Which bunch of people draw up the codes? It seems a deliberate ommission especially when potential for suicide from meds is no longer a secret and must be known to ‘the coders’

    ‘Guidelines state that this……code should
    be used only if the clinician is certain there is no
    underlying mental disorder. Consequently,
    attendances for suicidal crisis are often coded as
    depression or anxiety disorder.10 Coding is further
    complicated by the recording of only one diagnosis.
    One study found that 90% of attendances had only
    one recorded diagnosis, so identifying people who
    attend with mental ill health and an unrelated
    primary diagnosis code (such as laceration) is not
    possible.12 coding practices for patients in suicidal crisis
    Lack of data is holding back much needed improvements to services.
    .1 Records of deaths by suicide have
    their problems,2 but at least a clear system is in place. (!!)
    The recording of suicidal or self-harm ideation,
    however, is much less clear and robust, despite the
    fact that suicidal ideation is one of the strongest risk
    factors for death by suicide.3 Poor data are hampering
    efforts to care for those affected.

    ……7 but while data are available on
    attendances for self-harm, no comparable data exist
    for suicidal crisis. Hospital figures
    underestimate suicide related admissions, however,
    because of inconsistencies in coding within and
    between sites. One study9
    Episode Statistics underestimated rates of self-harm
    by 60%. Recent work has also indicated that
    administrative data from emergency departments
    misrepresents the true volume of suicidal
    presentations because of heterogeneity in coding.10
    These findings support the need to develop a more
    precise system to detect and monitor suicidal crises
    within emergency departments.
    Accurate detection and documentation of suicidal
    crisis is critical to understanding future risk and to
    improving services. The current coding system,
    ICD-10 (international classification of diseases, 10th
    revision), includes diagnostic codes related to suicide
    attempts, self-harm, and suicidal ideation. However,
    in practice, the code for suicidal ideation (R45.81) is
    rarely used.11 Guidelines state that this code should
    be used only if the clinician is certain there is no
    underlying mental disorder. Consequently,
    attendances for suicidal crisis are often coded as
    depression or anxiety disorder.10 Coding is further
    complicated by the recording of only one diagnosis.
    One study found that 90% of attendances had only
    one recorded diagnosis, so identifying people who
    attend with mental ill health and an unrelated
    primary diagnosis code (such as laceration) is not
    Administrative challenges in coding self-harm in
    emergency departments are often obscured by
    inconsistent coding and delays in entering
    information onto systems, and over 10% of all
    incidents are not included in basic emergency
    records.13 The Emergency Care Data Set was
    introduced in 2017 in an attempt to address these
    problems and includes a larger and more specific list
    of over 1000 clinical terms to capture patient data
    (SNOMED CT).
    Given limitations in current coding practices, the
    number of emergency department attendances for
    suicidal crisis is probably much higher than official
    NHS statistics suggest. Data should therefore be used
    with caution until a more standardised approach is
    Priorities for action
    Research and development in monitoring systems
    for suicidal crisis should be a priority for health
    services,…. As a first step,
    new coding systems could be piloted in a small
    number of hospitals to ensure their search terms and
    screening procedures are robust. Improved detection
    and recording of suicidal crises will support service
    developments such as the crisis care concordat,15
    which aims to provide better access to mental health
    services in England.
    Major changes to coding practices would be a
    substantial challenge for emergency departments
    and researchers. …. ‘(So what – they should get on with it )

  9. recovery&renewal Retweeted

    Fiona French, honesty and integrity are my values

    For all those who have lost their lives to #prescribedharm .. Ed being the most recent loss in our community. RIP.


    “The withdrawal experiences of tens of thousands of people remain hidden in these groups where they receive support to taper when healthcare services should be responsible.”
    Dr Ed White @Reduxreloaded#antidepressants #dependence #withdrawal

    ‘Although there will always be an important role for peer-support, these people are currently undertaking a complex, stressful, unpaid, undervalued role that should be provided by the original prescribers.’

    So very saddened to learn of the death of Dr. Ed.

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