Thanks for this post goes to Annie Bevan who for over a decade has made some amazing contributions to DH and RxISK. None more so than finding a document sitting in front of all of us for two decades that should make regulators blush, squirm and wish the ground would open and swallow them.
Thomas Kingston
Tom Kingston’s unfortunate death earlier this year led to an inquest a week ago, which heard that in response to work stress, possibly aggravated by a sleeping pill his doctor gave him, a good doctor, who then slipped into giving him Sertraline to which he reacted badly.
Katinka Newman’s recent article on SSRIs and Suicide brings out the key point – no one is supposed to feel worse on an antidepressant than they felt before starting it. If they do feel worse, they are at serious risk.
Tom had the good sense to take himself off sertraline. His doctor, following the advice of MHRA and NICE Guidelines started him on another SSRI, which he would likely have had the sense to refuse if he had known what was happening. He did stop it as well pretty quickly after starting. but by then the damage had been done.
An Unnecessary Death
SSRIs and lots of other drugs can cause suicide. MHRA, FDA and other regulators were forced into issuing warnings about this in 2004. These warnings however were couched in language about the treatment of depression being tricky – your patient’s condition can get worse. The wording left it open to doctors to decide if it was the illness causing problems in which case double the dose. If the view was that the drug was causing the problem, which you or I on the experiencing end of things might be sure was the case but which doctors who wanted to help us find it difficult to recognize, then the answer was to stop the treatment and ideally switch to something completely different.
The issue here is risk communication which is where MHRA and other regulators come in. Their failures in this area killed Thomas Kingston, have killed tens of thousands and, unless there is a drastic change, will kill many others.
At the heart of regulatory failure is matter of common sense. Someone who responds poorly to an antidepressant should neither be continued on that antidepressant nor switched to one with a similar mode of action. We have many different types of antidepressants and have recognized for over 60 years that people who respond poorly to an antidepressant from one group, a tricyclic for instance, commonly respond much better to an antidepressant from another group such as an MAOI.
Part of the case that SSRIs can cause suicide, in the earliest reports (from 35 years ago), mentioned that people who became suicidal on an SSRI did much better when switched to an MAOI.
This might seem like common sense and until 30 years ago when companies began defending their products and the doctors who consume these products by putting them in our mouths, it made perfect sense to most doctors and to me.
From 2002 to 2004, in Britain, GSK and MHRA were being hauled over the coals by Panorama who made a series of programs on them and Paxil and suicide. European Regulators asked Britain and GSK to address the issues. In tackling this very point, GSK cited a 1994 article by me – see below – about the need to switch when faced with a poor response.
But as you will see below in 2004 GSK (in line with other companies) dismissed this common sense approach. This is where the Ants start to emerge but you will have to read to the end of the post to get the full horror of what happened and is still happening.
The GSK document linked here is dated January 2004. The key section is 8.1.2 Akathisia. For people new to this problem, the Greek word Akathisia translates as Feeling Worse:
8.1.2. Akathisia
It has been proposed that SSRIs, such as paroxetine, may induce agitation or akathisia like events soon after therapy is started and that the distress this causes in an already vulnerable group leads to suicidal behaviour [Healy, 1994]. However this suggestion is not supported by the findings from the adult clinical studies with paroxetine or the postmarketing adverse event data.
Hence, establishing whether paroxetine (or a concurrent medication or underlying psychiatric disorder) is the most likely cause of the onset of akathisia-like symptoms in any individual patient may not be straightforward. However, given that an association between the onset of akathisia or agitation and the development of suicidal behaviour is not supported by the data on paroxetine, there is not an absolute need for therapy to be immediately withdrawn. Rather, the physician will need to consider the range of management options available in the context of the severity of the akathisia symptoms and the potential benefit the patient may derive from continued therapy.
No additional guidance regarding the management of patients presenting with akathisia-like symptoms is considered appropriate, as the prescribing physician should consider each individual patient on a case-by-case basis.
GSK Spring a Surprise
The date of the document points to something astonishing that few people know about.
FDA had scheduled a hearing, a month later, in February 2004, on the question of whether antidepressants can cause suicide. GSK look like they knew that FDA would say Nothing to See here – Move Along. And they had good grounds to think this.
Tom Laughren of FDA had briefed the media 3 months beforehand saying that, while there had been a scare earlier in 2003 about all this suicide stuff, FDA no longer believed there was a problem
I am pretty certain that during the morning of February 2nd, the day of the meeting, FDA were confident they could brush the problem under the carpet. But they reckoned without Panorama’s Andy Bell who put a document in my hands to release to the media just before midday. The document clearly stated GSK knew that in their Study 329 trial of Paxil in depressed adolescents, Paxil had not worked and not just that but it was also hazardous.
By that afternoon the vibe from FDA had changed. They were stymied. The ball was kicked into the long grass – FDA ended up saying they were going to look at the data more closely and would reconvene in September.
In the meantime, based on the Panorama document, New York’s Attorney General filed a fraud action against GSK. Congress scheduled hearings on why one of FDA’s staff, Andy Mosholder, had been muzzled and not let present data on the suicide risk in company trials. And FDA’s Bob Temple had a phone call after which FDA raised a white flag. See Children of the Cure.
FDA were still fighting a rearguard action in September, even though it was clear there would be warnings. Senior FDA honchoes accepted that antidepressants can cause suicide. But while conceding on the record that the correct word was ’caused’ suicide, they left it uncertain as to whether or how this happens.
It just happens – how do we know what goes wrong?
Neither FDA nor MHRA nor EMA have been willing to put clearly in print that even healthy volunteers put on these drugs can end up committing suicide. That 100% of the volunteers put on sertraline in one Pfizer trial became badly agitated and all stopped the drug on their 4th day on it – the same day Tom Kingston stopped it.
Neither FDA nor MHRA ever mention a Pfizer document from over 40 years ago, saying sertraline caused these volunteers to react in this way.
No regulator has been prepared to endorse an obvious step and agree that all things being equal suicides are more likely to come from the group of patients who early on in treatment say they are agitated and suicidal rather than from the group whom the drugs suit – who say almost from day 1 that they feel more relaxed and this effect suits them.
Instead we hear that these drugs can take 6 weeks to work. This is baloney. If they are suiting you you can tell in a day or two and for the most part it’s the same if they are not suiting you and if they are not suiting you are not going to be helped. The condition may clear weeks later but it will do so despite the drug not because of it.
The 6 weeks to work idea came from older wisdom about patients who were melancholic – very severely depressed – taking 2 weeks to respond to much more potent antidepressants than SSRIs. But even then Arvid Carlsson was able to spot that some people on a serotonin reuptake inhibiting older tricyclic could spot when it was helping them and when not. This is where he got the idea for an SSRI.
The SSRIs are much weaker antidepressants than the tricyclics. They don’t help melancholia. They are given to people who have mild problems likely to clear up spontaneously if left without treatment. But in line with the weak evidence from clinical trials that SSRIs worked at all, the idea that the drugs take time to work stretched from 2 weeks out to 6 weeks and more – by which time spontaneous recoveries were likely.
Or by which time people taking things into their own hands, like Tom Kingston, stopped them and ,when asked by their doctors how they were, reported feeling much better – without mentioning they had stopped the treatment, even to the point of continuing to collect the scripts. Most of us don’t feel comfortable telling doctors they got things wrong.
In practice, someone like Tom Kingston may have been feeling very very bad and might have been almost certain that if he told his doctor what he was thinking and feeling she would have felt forced to compulsorily detain him in hospital.
Ten years ago, I interviewed James Holmes – the Batman Killer – who in Aurora Colarado killed 12 and injured 72 others. Prior to being on an antidepressant he was shy and inhibited and not likely to hurt a fly. His doctor put him on Sertraline – the same drug Tom was given. Holmes told his doctor ‘If you knew what I was thinking you would lock me up’. She responded that he was responsible for his actions and did not change his treatment.
The Wrong Calculus
The advice that killed Tom Kingston was put in place by companies 20 years ago and has not been corrected by MHRA since.
No-one in MHRA, FDA or EMA practices medicine. They aren’t faced with real people. They deal with non-existent averages who don’t commit suicide.
Whatever about an unlikely benefit after a bad start. if even 50.1% of those who feel worse early on don’t kill themselves, perhaps because put on benzodiazepines – as companies did in their trials and advised doctors to give patients who became agitated on an SSRI rather than stop the drug – regulators can persuade themselves not warning comes with a positive Benefit-Risk ratio.
Regulators and doctors are told they will have blood on their hands if they warn clearly.
This is like a problem in calculus, where if an ant has a head-start on a hare and every second or so the hare makes up 9/10s of the distance between them, can it ever catch up with the ant? This is the nit-picking world regulators operate in.
The Dutch for nit-picking is mierenneuker, a word which literally translates as ant-fucker. The Dutch, interestingly, do not regard this word as offensive. Some of us who have not lost anyone to these drugs on meeting regulators might figure they are decent enough people and their nit-picking dilemmas are amusing.
Zombie Ants
The ant kingdom has real live, but shortly going to die, Zombie Ants. The ant below is one. When these poor guys accidentally eat certain fungi – the fun guys take them over, control their actions and grow inside them until they explode.
A metaphor for what happens to regulators when they liaise with fungi that are too smart for them?
When Katinka Newman asked MHRA about these points for her article mentioned above, Alison Cave answered:
‘We always remind patients not to stop taking any medication without talking to their healthcare professional first.’
MHRA are apparently convening a panel of independent experts to look into these matters. The panel will likely have no one that any readers of this post will recognize as being worth their salt.
There might be nothing for it but to call for Roald Dahl’s Aunt-Eater. For those of you don’t know the story, a spoilt and nasty boy, who has everything, is given a present of the one thing he doesn’t have – an ant-eater. He casts it aside and doesn’t feed it.
An aunt he isn’t too keen on visits. The boy introduces her as his Ant (American pronunciation) to his starving ant-eater, who can’t believe his luck at the size of this ant and gobbles her up.
Johanna says
Sounds like there are at least SOME reasons to hope that Thomas Kingston’s tragic death will help break the official silence (and outright denial) regarding SSRI’s and suicide.
His family including his widow have taken a clear stand that he would be alive today if not for the medication. Even more important, the county coroner for Gloucestershire has adopted that official conclusion:
“”The evidence of his wife, family and business partner all supports his lack of suicidal intent. He was suffering adverse effects of medication he had recently been prescribed.”
For those not in the UK: This man was well-known, being related by marriage to the royal family. So, his death has gotten a LOT of coverage. This BBC article explains who he was and the circumstances of his death:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8ewl7e75yxo
Dr Pedro says
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/medicines-and-medical-devices-six-tips-for-staying-healthy-and-safe-this-festive-season
Dr Alison Cave, Chief Safety Officer at the MHRA said:
”The festive season is a time for friends and family, creating treasured memories and sharing traditions.
Amongst the hustle and bustle and the celebrations, it’s important we keep safe at this time of year, particularly when it comes to using medical products.
Acting on these tips will stand you in good stead now and at any other time of the year. ”
….except those who have lost friends or family.
Oh – “If you are in crisis, speak to the Samaritans on 116 123.”
tim says
Thanks for this link Dr. Pedro.
“The MHRA is responsible for regulating all medicines and medical devices in the UK by ensuring they work and are acceptably safe”.
Perhaps the MHRA might define: ‘ACCEPTABLY SAFE’?
Drugs that result in AKATHISIA, SUICIDAL IDEATION, COMPLETED SUICIDE, VIOLENCE, PSSD, PGAD, et al are certainly not considered tolerably safe by those families destroyed by these adverse effects, which are not routinely warned about by prescribers.
No attempt was made by any prescriber of unnecessary, toxic, inappropriate psychotropic drugs to ensure fair, full and informed consent before our loved-one’s precious, happy life was destroyed.
If ‘ACCEPTABLY SAFE’, why are so many dead, maimed and destroyed, and their families left knowing that all this suffering and pain was both iatrogenic and completely avoidable?
A small amount of truth-telling would have allowed normal, healthy, happy life to continue uninterrupted.
Have not both patients and prescribers been betrayed by “ACCEPTABLY SAFE”?
Is it not reasonable to demand ACCOUNTABILITY for these tragedies?
mary H. says
I agree wholeheartedly with you, Tim.
This “acceptably safe” attitude that seems to let so many lives be ruined is “atrociously unsafe” .
It allows so many individuals to hide away from society – who can blame them whilst the attitude seems to be that the problem is with THEM and not the drugs that they were prescribed? We see this every time that we have our withdrawal meetings. Their faith in ever again finding someone that they can trust has been shattered so that working with them to do our best to bring them out of the shadows is really difficult. As I always say to them, unless they are willing to come out and be counted then nothing is going to change, We know that we need drastic changes but, whilst those in ‘power’ think that providing the NHS 111 helpline is sufficient support, we certainly have a mountain still to climb!
annie says
DH Blog Updated – thank goodness – who in their right-mind would listen – The Lords have been listening –
Baroness strikes blows to Lords, dismisses Thomas Kingston evidence; does not admit to reading submitted evidence supplied by Lord Alton
Has she had the chance to read the correspondence I shared with her from the bereaved family of Thomas Kingston, who, like Olivia Russell, committed suicide while using anti-depressants? Has she noted that the coroner intends to issue a prevention of future death report to the MHRA? In the light of this tragedy, what can the Minister do to create a more rigorous approval regime, including greater definition of risk?
Baroness Merron:
There are no current plans to conduct a review.
https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/debate/2024-12-11/lords/lords-chamber/anti-depressants-cost-risks-and-ramifications/ministerial-extracts
Monkey Chattering
“as required”
Pfizer no longer produces sertraline. Responding to Panorama’s findings, a spokesperson said the company “monitored and reported all adverse event data” to licensing authorities, “in line with its legal and regulatory obligations and updated sertraline labelling as required.”
It added: “Public health organisations and professional medical bodies throughout the world have recognised sertraline and other SSRIs as the treatment of choice for adult depression.” The company said the drug’s label warned about withdrawal and had been updated “as required”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65825012
These are not all the side effects of sertraline. For a full list, see the leaflet inside your medicine packet.
Next review due: 2 February 2025
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/sertraline/side-effects-of-sertraline/
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/citalopram/side-effects-of-citalopram/
Baroness Merron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_Merron
[Gillian Merron] is now a strategic advisor to the transport industry and will be bringing new strategic direction to Bus Users UK.,
It’s all about “as required”, and the furtive disobliging evidence to anything on the contrary.
Tom Kingston was murdered, not by his own hand, but by those who abide by mediocrity in the lax world of sheer competence, by those pretending that they have any idea of what they are talking about.